To: unicode(at)unicode.org From: vladimirg(at)need.bg Received: (qmail 11112 invoked by uid 0); 10 Jul 2003 08:31:12 -0000 from unicode.org (209.235.17.55) by ns.need.bg with SMTP; 10 Jul 2003 08:31:12 -0000 from sarasvati.unicode.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by unicode.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h6A8O7s25931; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 04:24:07 -0400 with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list unicode); Thu, 10 Jul 2003 04:24:07 -0400 (EDT) from need.bg (ns.need.bg [212.72.196.29]) by unicode.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id h6A8O3s25925 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 04:24:05 -0400 (qmail 10091 invoked by uid 99); 10 Jul 2003 08:24:01 -0000 Date: 10 Jul 2003 08:24:01 -0000 XMailer: mailium MIMEVersion: 1.0 ContentType: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 XPriority: Subject: Combining diacriticals and Cyrillic Body: Dear Ladys and Gentlemen, Currently there is an ongoing effort in Bulgaria trying to resolve an issuie concerning the way we write in Bulgarian. Our problem is: Usually a bulgarian regular user does not need to write accented characters. There is one middle-sized exclusion of this, but generally we do fine without accented characters. The problem is that in some special cases or more serious lingustic work, one definetely needs to be able to write accented characters (accented vowels). One of the ideas is to invent a new ASCII-based encodings, containing the accented characters we need. This would introduce an additional disorder in the current mess of cyrillic encodings, and would introduce problems with automated spellcheck. Generally I beleive it would be best to invent a Unicode based solution. Such a solution is for example, combining diacritical signs with the cyrillic symbols. I composed a demo page: http://v.bulport.com/bugs/opera/426/balhaah_lonex_org/ and then made 10-20 shots of the results on Opera and IE on Linux, Windows 98 and Windows XP: http://v.bulport.com/bugs/opera/426/balhaah_lonex_org/shots.html You can see that this approach yields _quite_ incosistent and useless results, depending on the font, application and operating system being used. Finally, I wonder if you could give us some advice: 1. Is it possible somehow to improve this approach? I imagine eg., if the font can provide prepared combined symbols whenever the application asks for a combined cyrillic+diacritical, instead of leaving the application to do the combination. 2. Do you see other unicode based approach to the Bulgarian problem? 3. Do you beleive the approach should be looked for outside Unicode? Please excuse me for wasting your time, Vladimir, Bulgaria