To: From: Jungshik Shin jshin(at)mailaps.org Received: (qmail 6732 invoked by uid 0); 10 Jul 2003 11:58:05 -0000 from atlas.jtan.com (207.106.84.159) by ns.need.bg with SMTP; 10 Jul 2003 11:58:05 -0000 from callisto.jtan.com (root(at)callisto.jtan.com [207.106.84.134]) by atlas.jtan.com (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h6ABvXV0008430 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 10 Jul 2003 07:57:33 -0400 (EDT) from callisto.jtan.com (jshin(at)localhost [127.0.0.1]) by callisto.jtan.com (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id h6ABvWOW011881; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 07:57:32 -0400 (EDT) from localhost (jshin(at)localhost) by callisto.jtan.com (8.12.1/8.12.1/Submit) with ESMTP id h6ABvUfv014844; Thu, 10 Jul 2003 07:57:31 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 07:57:30 -0400 (EDT) MIMEVersion: 1.0 ContentType: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: Combining diacriticals and Cyrillic Body: On 10 Jul 2003 vladimirg(at)need.bg wrote: > One of the ideas is to invent a new ASCII-based encodings, > containing the accented characters we need. This would introduce Please, no more new legacy character ! :-) > Generally I beleive it would be best to invent a Unicode based solution. Absolutely, You don't even have to 'invent' anything. > Such a solution is for example, combining diacritical signs with the > cyrillic symbols. They're encoded for this kind of use. > I composed a demo page: > http://v.bulport.com/bugs/opera/426/balhaah_lonex_org/ With Code2000, your page is rendered by Konqueror 3.x under Linux as well as your 'most beautiful' screenshot. I guess Safari for Mac OS X would give you the best result. KWrite and other KDE tools can handle multiple stacks of diacritic marks. > Is it possible somehow to improve this approach? I imagine eg., > if the font can provide prepared combined symbols whenever the > application asks for a combined cyrillic+diacritical, instead of > leaving the application to do the combination. Try the following and other sites on opentype fonts, AAT(Apple Advanced Typography), ATSUI, Graphite, Pango, Uniscribe. http://www.microsoft.com/typography http://fonts.apple.com http://www.pango.org http://graphite.sil.org/ http://www.adobe.com/type/ > Do you see other unicode based approach to the Bulgarian problem? You took the 'right' path. It's not just Bulgarian but other European languages written in Latin, Cyrillic and Greek have the same issue. > Do you beleive the approach should be looked for outside Unicode? No.